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Why does GOP insist on ling to Seniors about Health Care - why do Seniors continue to listen?

After lie after lie after lie - are Seniors stupid? Death Panels’ Hypocrisy: RNC Health Insurance Provider Promotes End-Of-Life Counseling Over the summer, one of the GOP’s loudest complaints against health care legislation was a provision offering senior citizens Medicare reimbursement for end-of-life counseling. Republicans claimed it would create so-called “death panels” or urge seniors citizens to die. RNC Chairman Michael Steele “endorsed this type of rhetoric, and on July 28, the RNC put out research document claiming that the government would “dictate” Americans’ “end-of-life care.” But it has been noted that Cigna, the RNC’s health insurance provider, also urges beneficiaries to think about end-of-life services. Cigna’s website has a page called “Care at the End of Life,” which covers topics such as how to talk with “loved ones” about “end-of-life choices” and whether to stop life-prolonging treatment: It’s unclear whether the RNC’s insurance plan covers these end-of-life consultations, and neither Cigna nor the RNC replied to inquiries. But nevertheless, the RNC’s insurance provider has posted information on its website advising beneficiaries about the complicated questions that accompany decisions at the end of someone’s life. There is nothing objectionable about this planning, which has been endorsed by Democrats, Republicans like Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-GA), and the AARP. But this type of advice is exactly what the GOP fear-mongered about this summer. As FactCheck.org explained: What the bill actually provides for is voluntary Medicare-funded end-of-life counseling. In other words, if seniors choose to make advance decisions about the type of care and treatments they wish to receive at the end of their lives, Medicare will pay for them to sit down with their doctor and discuss their preferences. There is no requirement to attend regular sessions, and there is absolutely no provision encouraging euthanasia. Recently, the RNC has been urging lawmakers to support the anti-choice Stupak amendment, which would not only ban women on the federal exchange from using federal funds for abortion, but could bar employer-sponsored plans from offering the coverage. However, Politico reported this week that the RNC health care plan under Cigna has coverage for elective abortion services. Upon hearing the news, the RNC quickly opted-out of the abortion coverage, although its money is still indirectly subsidizing other women’s abortions. What will be the next GOP lie (their next statement) and why are Seniors so gulible? The GOP plays these folks & the weak-minded like a fiddle. They lie! Hey Snowman - blowing more lies - NO SUCH report from Centers for Medicare and Medicaid. I will be happy to review link for such a report - there are NOT ANY. You lie. The report from AMA that you link too are regarding Fradulent claims from insurers - which should NOT be paid and can account for savings - MISREPRESENTATION. You lie, again. The other report you reference from the AMA (who support the current bills) & link to are for FRAD claims from insurors & should NOT be paid resulting in savings - MISREPRESENTATION - you lie again, Snowman - you earn your name. With a name like 'Snowman' you like laughing at these idiots as much as beck and the rest of us do.

Public Comments

1. Why does Obama want to take 500 billion out of Medicare while telling seniors its just cutting waste?
2. Yeah,,,,,, like all the wasted money on mammograms. obama is already lowering the cost of healthcare, because after age 74 you do not need a mammogram. See we don't need death panels.
3. Old people are funny. After paying in a lifetime, they like their medicare and social security, and for most of them, it really is a matter of survival. Never mind that the Republicans suggested ending Medicare as part of their alternative budget this year. The Republicans have nothing really to stand on, but they are good at drumming up fear.
4. Sure ALL THE SENIORS are the stupid ones but not you
5. MOST people KNOW the GOP lie! That's just what they do! That's why the MAJORITY of Americans (young and old) voted them out RESOUNDINGLY in 2008! (and will do so again in '10 and '12)
6. The facts prove your argument wrong.
7. answer to Q;1 The Insurance Lobby is padding the GOP answer to Q;2 Seniors are easily scammed by just a phone call, they are an easy hit for the GOP
8. You could shout the truth form the top of the mountain, from sea to shining sea and SOME will not ackowledge a fact if it hit them in the face.
9. Just as "Early Retirement" reduces your cost to the Corporation, Obama's proposal to take over your medical decision-making and have his people make your medical choices reduces costs to the government. Let's face it -- breast and prostrate cancers are diseases of those largely unproductive citizens over 50. Thus Obama's recent proposals to cut back on such screenings are a form of early retirement for the costly and burdensome geezer class. Under Government health care such cost reductions are a good thing, to Obama and his youthful fans and voters. Indeed, Death Panels are quite real!
10. Obama wants to cut $500,000,000,000,000 a half trillion dollars from a broke Medicare and Medicaid program, how does that protect the senior citizens? Rationing of services does lead to death panels.
11. Isn't Ling the chick on the news...why is the Idiot in Chief and the Axis of Idiots lying about how many jobs have been "Saved or Created" looks like a pattern to me, but we all know NeoLIbs cannot think for themselves...
12. I know, can you believe it. Why can't the seniors just turn down their hearing aids and take their glasses off like the Dems want them to so they can just try to push it through without ANYONE noticing? I hate when that happens. Sorry...America has finally woken up...obama party is over.
13. Quite a bold statement if true. But a report released Friday by the non-partisan and independent Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the agency in charge of running Medicare and Medicaid, blows the lid off of every one of Obama’s claims. All of the following quotes are from the report itself: Health Care Costs Increase: “In aggregate, we estimate that for calendar years 2010 through 2019 [national health expenditures (NHE)] would increase by $289 billion, or 0.8 percent, over the updates baseline projection that was released on June 29, 2009.” In other words, Obamacare bends the cost curve up, not down. Millions Lose Existing Private Coverage: “However, a number of workers who currently have employer coverage would likely become enrolled in the expanded Medicaid program or receive subsidized coverage through the Exchange. For example, some smaller employers would be inclined to terminate their existing coverage, and companies with low average salaries might find it to their - and their employees’ - advantage to end their plans … We estimate that such actions would collectively reduce the number of people with employer-sponsored health coverage by about 12 million.” In other words, Obamacare will cause millions of Americans to lose their existing private coverage. Millions Pay Fines Yet Remain Uncovered: “18 million are estimated to choose not to be insured and to pay the penalty associated with the individual mandate. For the most part, these would be individuals with relatively low health care expenses for whom the individual or family insurance premium would be significantly in excess of the penalty and their anticipated health benefit value.” In other words, 18 million Americans will either face jail time or be forced to pay a new tax they will receive no benefit from. Millions Lose Medicare Advantage: “Section 1161 of Division B of H.R. 3962 would set Medicare Advantage capitation benchmarks … We estimate that in 2014 when the MA provisions would be fully phased in, enrollment in MA plans would decreased by 64 percent (from its projected level of 13.2 million under current law to 4.7 million under the proposal).” In other words, 8.5 million seniors who currently get such services as coor­dinated care for chronic conditions, routine eye and hearing examinations, and preventive-care services would lose their existing private coverage. Millions Placed on Welfare: “Of the additional 34 million who are estimated to be insured in 2019 as a result of H.R. 3962, about three-fifths (21 million) would receive Medicaid coverage due to the expansion of eligibility to those adults under 150 percent of the FPL.” In other words, more than half the people who gain health insurance will receive it through the welfare program Medicaid. Seniors Access to Care Jeopardized: “H.R. 3962 would introduce permanent annual productivity adjustments to price updates for institutional providers… Over time, a sustained reduction in payment updates, based on productivity expectations that are difficult to attain, would cause Medicare payment rates to grow more slowly than and in a way that was unrelated to, the providers’ costs of furnishing services to beneficiaries. Thus, providers for whom Medicare constitutes a substantive portion of their business could find it difficult to remain profitable and might end their participation in the program (possibly jeopardizing access to care for beneficiaries).” In other words, the Medicare cuts in the House bill are so out of touch with reality that hospitals currently serving Medicare patients might be forced to stop doing so. Thus making it much more difficult for seniors to get health care. Poor’s Access Problems Exacerbated: “In practice, supply constraints might interfere with providing the services by the additional 34 million insured persons. …providers might tend to accept more patients who have private insurance (with relatively attractive payment rates) and fewer Medicaid patients, exacerbating existing access problems for the latter group.” In other words, those 21 million people who are gaining health insurance through Medicaid are going to have a very tough time finding a doctor who will treat them. From the AMA: "Medicare denies most claims" http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/368/reportcard.pdf PAGE 2: Metrics 12, 13, 14 PAGE 5: Metric 12 expanded w/ definitions for denial Top three for private insurance: 1. Double submission (deny the second) 2. Explicitly not covered by policy (deny) 3. User not part of that insurance group - mix-up (deny). If you refuse the above you can't be helped. I've posted the link, narrowed your search and I even give you the definitions. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Office of the Actuary, CMS: .pdf file scanned and posted. The report was issued to all Congressmen/women...Republicans posted it, Democrats buried it -- wonder why? http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/UploadedFiles/OACT_Memorandum_on_Financial_Impact_of_H_R__3962__11-13-09_.pdf AMA link: "What percentage of records submitted are denied by the payer for reasons other than a claim edit? A denial is defined as: allowed amount equal to the billed charge and the payment equals $0." "With a name like 'Snowman' you like laughing at these idiots as much as beck and the rest of us do." The only thing I'm laughing at is your unwillingness to admit you're wrong, although it just turns into something sad when I realize you actually believe what you're saying. Release those party loyalties lamb -- there's a whole world outside of red and blue. This will be the second time you've been schooled. I accept e-mail if you want some more -- you know how to contact me.
14. The truth will set you free. Peace
15. Sorry, Tyrone... cat's out of the bag... 0bamacare is a $2,000,000,000,000 PLUS Ponzi scheme...
16. Not this senior. I know which side of the barricades I stand on.